SPARE WHEEL IDEA POSSIBLE OR NOT ?
I WAS THINKING COULD I USE THE PUR WALK ON HOOD MOUNT A SPARE WHEEL
CARRIER FROM THE BACK DOOR ON IT AND PLONK ON A HUTCHINSON WHEEL ?
I HOPE I CAN WILL LOOK COOL
ADRIAN
Hmmm I thought it was now illegal to have them - have sent a request off to DVLA, so should know this time next year. However make sure you have VERY strong mounts and more importantly that the bonnet fixings are robust - a right pain in the bum when you are driving and they vibrate up and down - almost doubles the size of the tire!
As it's a Hutchinson, I would recommend 4x2 reinforced steel girders should suffice! just imagine rolling down the road and some muppet pulls out or you crash into a tree at speed - not sure I would like that coming at me....
Looks nicer at the back anyway.
Spider1V
Regarding the bullbar thing, I think it's illegal to fit a "new" bar to a new vehicle post mid 2000's, however by some quirk of the law, an old bar can be retrofitted, so if you got an old bar, stripped it and re plastic coated so it looked new, then you're fine.
As for the wheels on bonnets, not sure... land rover stopped fitting them with the intro of the Td5 (1997~1998) as they had a bonnet with a smaller inside profile to clear the rocker cover plastic piece.... try fitting a pre Td5 bonnet to a Td5 and it rattles like buggery... ask me how I know!
But as said above, I've not seen one LR bonnet that's not cracked and split over time. Having said that, the "hinges" on the bulkhead and front slam panel are very similar between LR and G, so I can't see that strength there would be an issue.
I have some details somewhere, I'll dig them out, of a company that made a Td5 spec wheel frame, which in short was a large A shaped frame, the bottoms of the A bolt onto both hinges, and the top of the A is at the front of the bonnet right above the locking pin thing that goes into the slam panel. so all the weight is carried by this frame and distributed amongst the bulkhead hinges and front slam panel.
Regarding the bullbar thing, I think it's illegal to fit a "new" bar to a new vehicle post mid 2000's, however by some quirk of the law, an old bar can be retrofitted, so if you got an old bar, stripped it and re plastic coated so it looked new, then you're fine.
As for the wheels on bonnets, not sure... land rover stopped fitting them with the intro of the Td5 (1997~1998) as they had a bonnet with a smaller inside profile to clear the rocker cover plastic piece.... try fitting a pre Td5 bonnet to a Td5 and it rattles like buggery... ask me how I know!
But as said above, I've not seen one LR bonnet that's not cracked and split over time. Having said that, the "hinges" on the bulkhead and front slam panel are very similar between LR and G, so I can't see that strength there would be an issue.
I have some details somewhere, I'll dig them out, of a company that made a Td5 spec wheel frame, which in short was a large A shaped frame, the bottoms of the A bolt onto both hinges, and the top of the A is at the front of the bonnet right above the locking pin thing that goes into the slam panel. so all the weight is carried by this frame and distributed amongst the bulkhead hinges and front slam panel.
I think technically even for an older vehicle it has to have been fitted prior to the legislation i.e. you can't bolt an old bullbar to an old vehicle that didn't originally have it.
I had an original 460 bullbar on mine and I took it off and thew it away. In the end I concluded that other than the aesthetics there is IMHO little reason to have them fitted in the UK and frankly the vehicle will already do significant damage to someone it if hit them, no reason to add to that (and for any vehicle collision the bars aren't going to save you much damage and might well prompt enquiries from the insurance co)..
Regarding the bullbar thing, I think it's illegal to fit a "new" bar to a new vehicle post mid 2000's, however by some quirk of the law, an old bar can be retrofitted, so if you got an old bar, stripped it and re plastic coated so it looked new, then you're fine.
I think technically even for an older vehicle it has to have been fitted prior to the legislation i.e. you can't bolt an old bullbar to an old vehicle that didn't originally have it.
Due to an EU Directive in 2007 which became a Regulation in 2009 it is illegal post 2007 to manufacture or offer for sale a Frontal Protection System (Bull Bar) which does not comply with the EU technical specification ( no metal and deformable).
New vehicles manufactured after 2007 will not receive EU type approval or certificate of conformity if they are fitted by the manufacturer with a FPS which does not meet EU technical specifications.
I think the idea of the regulation is to stop the manufacture and sale of non compliant bull bars and also prevent the vehicle manufacturer fitting them as OEM. If they restrict the supply eventually there will be hardly any left.
From my understanding of the regulation it does not prevent a private individual from fitting a non complient Bull Bar ( if he can source one) to his vehicle if he wanted to. This may have other consequences from an insurance point of view however.
Read this if you can stay awake long enough.......
I managed to pick up a genuine G bar for my 460 a while back, I like the look of it, it'll certainly be going onto mine at some point.
There are probably people who say they shouldn't be fitted so as to protect pedestrians, but a) the front of a G (or a defender) is hardly pedestrian friendly anyway, and b) stay out of the road...
Hi Adrian, don't forget you have a bull bar sitting in my shed waiting for a new owner! And I still owe you a pint, better come and claim it !!!!!!!!!!
Regards, Rowland
makes you wonder how British / Leyland now the Indian car company
got around these problems ?
but then i have never seen a land rover bonnet with wheel on
that is not wobble rattle and shake ect ect ect
dam mike you have pissed on my fire
Adrian
ps
open to ideas how to make a German guillotine safe (ish)