winches
Am wishing to kit out swb 300gd for off road , tyre enquiries in progress , now what about a winch , I fancy hydraulic - off power steering circuit - is this possible or practical , presume need hdy oil cooler and expansion tank , or does elect make more sense , does this need 2nd/reserve battery and/or uprated altnator - I have modifed origional batt tray to take truck or tractor batt anyway.
When I get bogged it will be in peat and she will be well in , is affordable elect winch up to this use/abuse.
However have seen adverts for elect winch that hooks on tow ball , like the idea of this front/rear intervehicle flexibility.
Or perhaps I have been influenced by landrover based press articles - are "Gs" so good they dont need such expensive luxeries!
Marcus
Maybe an obvious question but if you are bogged down in peat what are you going to attach a winch rope to?
In my experience of peat no ground anchor will hold ( hedgehog and screw in types just pull out, not placed in the peat obviously) Attaching it to another vehicle also fails. Therefore weak point is not the winch. Any decent electric winch is OK especially if the rope is doubled through a snatch block (not up to extreme use that hydraulic winches can deal with though). Tow hitch ones I have seen are cheap and nasty, not up to pulling a G. Probable that there are good quality ones available though.
Only easy way to pull something as heavy as a G out of peat is with a kinetic rope, however see other posts way too dangerous in the wrong hands.
Russ
Thanks Russ , Iam pondering an elegant solution to that one , suspect an anchor type device would work , but would be heavy and then have to extract.I do have a 4-wheel drive tractor with hyd link box which will act as an anchor if all else fails , but only available on home ground.
Could invest in Ordnance Holdfast set but tedious and prob not most effective in peat , is this what you refer to as a hedgehog.
Yes I did see posts re failure of towball mounting due to kinetic rope use and subsequent near miss .
Plus I would usually be working on my own .
Anyway who is best contact for elect or hyd - gwoa discount?
Marcus
The most knowledgable person I know on this board about wiches is "Peter perfect" .He has a hydraulic winch front and aft on a 460. You could try emailing him if he's not watching this board
Am wishing to kit out swb 300gd for off road , tyre enquiries in progress , now what about a winch , I fancy hydraulic - off power steering circuit - is this possible or practical , presume need hdy oil cooler and expansion tank , or does elect make more sense , does this need 2nd/reserve battery and/or uprated altnator - I have modifed origional batt tray to take truck or tractor batt anyway.
When I get bogged it will be in peat and she will be well in , is affordable elect winch up to this use/abuse.
However have seen adverts for elect winch that hooks on tow ball , like the idea of this front/rear intervehicle flexibility.
Or perhaps I have been influenced by landrover based press articles - are "Gs" so good they dont need such expensive luxeries!
Marcus
By all accounts that I've read, hydraulic winches powered by the power steering pump are excruciatingly slow. If you've got the room under the hood, it might be better to fit a dedicated belt driven pump. If you're lucky enough to have a PTO on the transfer case, that's the best solution. Spec out a nice hydraulic pump there.
Electric winches are problematic too. To do them right, consider upgrading the output of your alternator and adding a second battery.
Re: getting stuck in the peat. As I live in California I have no experience with peat, but I have plenty with sand. The anchor is a common solution (search for Pull Pal for one of several purpose made products.) I have also seen those stuck in sand self-recover by digging out in front of the wheels, laying down some strips of carpet in the path of the tires, and driving out of the mess. Might work in peat as well.
Spalding
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