460 280 vs 463 350 td

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Wed, 15/01/2014 - 10:20
Tee
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Hi guys, I've checked figures on paper but thought I'll try get some real life experience from someone. My280 5 speed manual lwb is still sluggish for me and from what I've read they are approx 150bhp and given it is manual I can max get more out of this power than an auto. Is it worth looking at the 463 350td model if want a power increase? I've seen power figures for the 350 at 135bhp but wondered if the fact that it is newer may have an effext. Basically which model is faster?
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Wed, 15/01/2014 - 13:33
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Re: 460 280 vs 463 350 td

the 350 turbo diesel is a very problematic engine and best avoided, it will have more torque than the petrol so not much in it for ultimate speed but you will need to use the gears more on the 280

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Wed, 15/01/2014 - 14:22
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Re: 460 280 vs 463 350 td

A W463 - 350TD will have more torque but that may not translate in being fast or quick, quicker maybe but from what I gauge of you, it will not do.

There were no 350TD in RHD only available in LHD and as our member prwales has stated these are a renowned problematic engine, blown head gaskets, bend rods etc, etc...

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Wed, 15/01/2014 - 15:10
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Re: 460 280 vs 463 350 td

Fit a turbo to your 280, PRWales will sell you a nice kit he has been going to fit for the last ten years smiley.  

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Wed, 15/01/2014 - 15:43
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Re: 460 280 vs 463 350 td

IanA2 has it now but it will only fit the m103 engine, possibly the early 24v 3 litre m104 but not the 280 m110, nitrous is your best optionlaughangel

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Wed, 15/01/2014 - 16:11
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Wed, 15/01/2014 - 17:48
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Re: 460 280 vs 463 350 td

Tee wrote:
Hi guys, I've checked figures on paper but thought I'll try get some real life experience from someone. My280 5 speed manual lwb is still sluggish for me and from what I've read they are approx 150bhp and given it is manual I can max get more out of this power than an auto. Is it worth looking at the 463 350td model if want a power increase? I've seen power figures for the 350 at 135bhp but wondered if the fact that it is newer may have an effext. Basically which model is faster?

A 500 would sort your issue :-)

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Wed, 15/01/2014 - 21:24
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Re: 460 280 vs 463 350 td
Fred you have nailed it. I think I've finally realised only a g500 will meet my hunger. Off to save some money!
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Fri, 17/01/2014 - 17:32
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Re: 460 280 vs 463 350 td

If your engine is tired but the rest of your G is servicable, perhaps your best course of action without spending much money is to source a M110 engine from a contemporary  E or S class. The hi-comp is good for 185 BHP and it will surely pull better and consume less than your current engine.

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