M102 Timing Chain

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HVD-EVS
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Does anybody happen to know what year Mercedes changed from simplex to duplex timing chains on the M102 (230GE) engine? Were duplex chain engines ever fitted to the later 460 G's? Thanks

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Re: M102 Timing Chain

Just going through old threads and noticed this one had gone unanswered.
 
The duplex chain was used on the 280GE, M110 engine throught out its production.

As to the M102 engine, I do not know; I can only assume, it was a simplex chain system and if it did use a duplex, then it would have been on a cosworth conversion.  The cosworth was not introduced on the G-Wagen, only in saloons.

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Re: M102 Timing Chain

Hi
Crewe Engines will tell you  by serial number but my understanding is that G'  M102 engines from 1988 had the duplex chain....

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Re: M102 Timing Chain

Hi

Yes early M102 has simplex upto engine M102.987.20.001588 for a  manual and M102.987.22.000758 for an auto.

therefore a  late M102 has duplex from engine M102.987.20.001589 and M102.987.22.000759 respectivly.

The M102.987 is the engine type

The 20 or 22 is RHD Manual Trans or RHD Auto Trans

Could be 10 or 12 for LHD Manual Trans or LHD Auto Trans

The last six digits are the unique serial number

Gav

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Re: M102 Timing Chain

gav.helme wrote:
Hi Yes early M102 has simplex upto engine M102.987.20.001588 for a  manual and M102.987.22.000758 for an auto. therefore a  late M102 has duplex from engine M102.987.20.001589 and M102.987.22.000759 respectivly. The M102.987 is the engine type The 20 or 22 is RHD Manual Trans or RHD Auto Trans Could be 10 or 12 for LHD Manual Trans or LHD Auto Trans The last six digits are the unique serial number Gav

 

what is the life of the duplex chain.?

. Am I looking at a replacement at 103k miles? Is it a costly change and are the cogs it runs on supposed to be changed also ( like on a motorcycle final drive chain ) ??

 

thank you.

 

 

John

 

1990 460 SWB 280 GE 103k miles

 

 

 

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Re: M102 Timing Chain

Check the timing marks align when at TDC. If they are ok then no need to consider a replacement chain. Duplex chain should last for twice that distance at least.

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ok thats good info thank you....

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Re: M102 Timing Chain

John your 280GE has the M110 Twin Cam 6 not the M102 OHV 4 

Never heard of any timing chain issues with the M110 engine

Very robust.. Just a tad thirsty

Gav