swarf ? & crud in automatic transmission

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marcus
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Just got round to dropping the auto trans sump and pulling the filter off, there appears to be swarf, thats what it felt like,and a little fine grey sludge sitting on top of old filter.Also a good teaspoonful of same crud caked in bottom of sump, but not metallic, despite two bright shiny "flakes" among the dull grey flakes ,checked with a fridge magnet
This along with the fluid being more brown in colour than red.
Where could contamination be coming from, not engine oil surely, unless some clown topped up the auto transmission with engine oil, back under ATF owenership that would have been, I hasten to add.
Fingers crossed as we are intending to head down to Kent on Saturday, 1000 mile round trip.
I presume we should be OK ?
Marcus

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Re: swarf ? & crud in automatic transmission

To follow up, cannot access the nut on the crankshaft to turn engine, so cannot access the drain plug for the torque convertor.
BUT having refilled system and taken a run into the town, the transmission seems a tad quicker on the uptake -- ie. when one slips it from neutral to drive -- or perhaps I am convincing/deluding myself.
Anyway off we go armed with 10 l of Dexron and several phone nos gleaned from this forum as backup.
Cheers,
Marcus

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Re: swarf ? & crud in automatic transmission

I went back to that with my determined head on -- but short of dismantling the fan cowling etc to access the crankshaft pully -- I AM STILL BEAT.
But I presume that as the fluid circulates through the torque converter from the gearbox, if I drain the gearbox after some miles the effect will be much the same.
PS
I wish I had not went back to the engine turning as whilst attempting access the crankshaft I discovered that the radiator is "in bits", ie. the wee fins between the vertical tubes are rotten over substantial areas.
Marcus

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Re: swarf ? & crud in automatic transmission

I haven’t a clue if this will work but how about getting someone to just flick the starter. Just turning the engine a fraction each time whilst you look up through the hole?

You may drop lucky if you persevere :D

If not there must be someone out there who has done this on a diesel (mine’s a 280)

russ

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Re: swarf ? & crud in automatic transmission

I once had a similar problem with swarf (not however in a G) and it turned out that the vanes in the torque converter were coming apart and getting brken up by the remaining ones, much like a blender. The only solution (unfortunately) was to replace it. I would also examine the gearbox to see that nothing is massively out of adustment or binding- this could account for the darkness of the fluid.

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Re: swarf ? & crud in automatic transmission

Aye Russ, tried that, but no luck, and almost impossible to not start engine in the process, I presume I could have disconnected the diesel or pulled off the cut off wire but did not want to potentially cause any more problems.
As it was the "little darling" would not start this morning, the battery must be on its way out -- but not a sign of this until now -- and Senior managment was there -- and I had parked her dead centre in front of the shed door -- and it slopes down towards the door of course -- and all other veh were locked away -- in the shed of course -- and of course the jump leads were not long enough. etc, etc
But that aside we set off, no worries, no puddles below her at Larne after 50 miles at up to eighty mph.
Got off the boat, 25 miles to Barrhill, smelt the hot fluid, looked below once stopped -- drips -- to a total of perhaps a 1/2 cupful in no time then stopped.
Oh and this was on the mother in laws achingly white, absolutely new,
spotlesslely brushed concrete.
And having checked the fluid level and driven her and rechecked and rechecked prior to departure, there still appears to be too much fluid in there -- and there def was not as per previous.
Senior managment thinks she would like a newer car and pref under manufacturers warrenty -- but where would the fun be in that.
SO its time to drain the fluid and check over tomorrow again -- ah well it will save me going to church, though perhaps someone will say a prayer for me.
Marcus