463 Manual 'box clutch problem
Hi All,
Just got my van back from the repairers after being side swiped by a hit and run driver. Time now to do a few things with Gertie.
Sometimes when sitting at a set of lights and one puts ones foot on the clutch to engage gear the pedal goes to the floor the gear engages but the pedal does not return until you put your toes behind it to lift it up.
Also it can be hard to engage reverse gear with the gear stick, all other gears are perfect.
And finally, when you open the two front doors no interior light comes on, when you open either of the rear or boot doors the two lights overhead the boot door come on. The front light works when the switch is turned on to either big or small light positions.
Any help or direction on these matters would be gratefully appreciated as I have some time off during Christmas.
Regards,
Mike
Hi Mike Gertie !!! Gerta or Gerda!!! bit like wagen and wagon...clutch pedal travel is adjustable... it sounds like the pedal fulcrum is going over centre. lengthen the rod between the pedal and the master cylinder... the switches in the the door pillars of the front doors corrode. they just pull out.... but slowly... in case the connectors become detached and disappear inside the pillar...if badly corroded fit new.. or clean the contact strips and refit. if you bridge the terminals and set the overhead light switch to doors... the lights should operate...there is a delay relay in the circuit so the light will stay on for a short while after you remove the bridge.cannot help you regarding reverse gear except to say it should be ATF in the Gearbox.NOT Gearoil. rgds
I'm not familiar with the G-wagen clutch but could it be air in the system? Is the hydraulic clutch system easy to bleed? If it is it might be worth trying that 1st. Then are there any 'flexi' pipes, could these be damaged and ballooning when the pedal is pressed? If not then look at the master cylinder & the actuator.
TBH my cluch pedal could do with a bit stronger 'kick back' , its one of those jobs to do list
To both above:
We all sometimes look right past the obvious and see how difficult we can make a "problem".
I've been there before getting underneath, bleeding, measuring slave cylinder movement, etc, etc to no avail.
Most probably just the swivel point(shaft/bush) on the clutch pedal ssembly that needs lubrication.
At least, that would be the easy option to start with, rather than the other way round, like I've done in the past :oops:
Hi Mike if you are experiencing loss of pedal pressure then chances are you have a seal in the master cylinder letting fluid past.. take the top of the reservoir and have somebody press the clutch pedal slowly and look for bubbles or a swirl in the fluid...if present remove the cylinder and strip it examine the seals and the barrel for decay or pitting... SEAL KITS ARE AVAILABLE BUT IF IN DOUBT FIT AN NEW CYLINDER.the hose between the cylinder and the reservoir may need changing at the same time...rgds
Must admit I didn't read the "sinking clutch pedal" properly. Mostly referred to pedal "sticking" at bottom.
Sinking pedal could be fluid getting past the seals on either master- or slave cylinder, but then the clutch would clearly not function properly. Probably a good idea to have someone operate the clutch while you have a good look underneath/underbonnet for any leaks, bulging hose and ultimately piston rod travel.
Ah, see I knew I didn't explain it proper and all.
Two heads together are better than one,even if they are heads of lettuce.
Thanks guys I'll get on with it now and have a look over the holidays.
Will report back all findings. It might be useful to someone else some other time with a similar problem.
Regards,
Mike
Indeed Mike, I for one will be very interested. Thats my weird side. Always interested in how problems get solved and mysteries revealed.
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Peter,
Thanks for the reply on the clutch. I didn't do a great job maybe of explaining it. When I got the G it was perfect, lately this problem has raised its ugly head. Would your suggestion be something that would be ongoing always happening or would just occur without fore warning.
If you put your foot on the pedal slightly the back pressure from the pedal against your foot decreases and the pedal sinks towards the floor.
Its like if seals were gone or going or a problem with the master cylinder. Brakes are perfect, brake pedal is perfect. I am basically looking to be but in the right direction by someone that had the same or similar problem
I did search the forum for a solution but did not find anything to date.
Thanking all in anticipation.
Regards,
Mike
P.S. Happy Christmas Peter and to all who read this.