wetness under the plastic treadplates.
I thoght i'd check the other door entry channels as i have cured the drivers side which is now bone dry despite the bad weather.i am now awaiting the window rubber for the drivers windowand door seal so i can prime and paint where needed and put back the floor trims.
I was suprised to see that the other channels under the plastic door entry treadplates were wet!!Not soaking but more than damp.
could it be because of general dampness from the previous water ingress and the channels acting like water traps??
i have removed all the plastic treadplates and will keep an eye on them,(i have looked at the other window rubbers and there seems to be no gap between the glass and rubber.
rgds-hussein.
Hi Huss after any major ingress of water under the mats THE ONLY solution is to remove them all and dry the plastic covered foam pads that are attached to the back of each mat segment.water finds its lowest level so indents /recesses in the floor pan will be the areas where the water will accumulate. acceleration and braking moves the water around under the carpets spreading the damp back into areas you thought were dry.....once all is dry and the leaks have been stopped buy a small electric dehumidifier and close all the vents... you will be amazed at the volume of miosture absorbed in the seat foams and head lining as a direct result of having wet carpets..... I have just de-moistured a SWB this way and after dryng the carpets I took 1.5 litre of water from the dehuumidifier in 7 days and the G was in the garage unused and not opened all that time.......
out of interest, where do you order your seals etc from?
if you have any corrosion in the door seal channels New seals will be hard to fit..external window to door seals get covered in green.... glit with the window right down and a tooth brush use warm water with a light detergent to scrub them clean.... let dry and apply a layer of petroleum jelly (vaseline) to the rubber edge... work it in and let it sit for twenty four hours then wipe the surplus off. the vaseline softens the seal and retextures it.;.... could do another five years.if their torn or split New ones are the cure...
out of interest, where do you order your seals etc from?
They can be ordered at your (un)friendly local Mercedes dealer. That's the good news about Gs, only some bits of interior trim of very early Gs are not available anymore...
mortinson;you are absolutely right mortinson,they are not helpfull at all!!
This is because they are all a bunch of bloody snobs of the worst kind!
By contrast, I went to my friendly local Mercedes dealer wearing my genuine MB overalls (as in the picture attached) to collect some parts. The garage foreman came to me and very friendly asked me whether I worked for another Mercedes garage (I assume that they were expecting this gent to collect something from them). I replied, heck, no, I am just an enthusiast trying to keep his 15 year-old GWagen in good shape. I told him that I was the Vice-President of the Spanish G Club and that I tried to service and repair my G to the best of my abilities. This was done in the presence of the guy who was delivering the parts I came for.
After the foreman had gone, I was about to pay for the parts and while I was giving the guy my credit card, I asked what did I need to do to ensure that the members of the Club Mercedes G España got their parts more cheaply. He said he needed to talk to his boss. When he came back he said that they were prepared to grant a very generous discount to all CMGE members. Now that's customers' service and what MBUK do is b*ll*cks!
Well,
Jesus,
Go on,
Annoy us,
Tell us the percentage discount then ?
:(
Marcus
Just some feedback ref my own dealings with MB over the last few weeks.
Ordered seat belts with pre-tensioners X3 for an S class (220) on the 22nd December 2006. Chased the order for nearly two weeks without any response!!! Finally got an answer from the assistant parts Manager...... Sorry, we ordered the belts to the wrong interior trim code, the ones you want are no longer available. :shock: Placed the order again with new trim code and they arrived the following day!
Ordered a door module for a CLK (209) on the 28th December 2006, again chased it up repeatedly with no response. Finally was told on the 3rd Jan 'part ordered as a stock item' it won't ever arrive as it is a chassis match/coded part that has to come in from Germany. I'll re-order and it will be 5-10 days.... Tough luck, up yours!
Ordered a PAS pump for a CL500 (215) on the 28th Dec, chased it's progress on the 3rd Jan and got nowhere. Repeatedly chased it until 10th Jan when we were told the pump would be @ Milton Keynes tonight and to expect it's delivery today (11th). We were also told that the pump order had been duplicated on the 3rd instead of progress report/arrival time!!
Needless to say the pump did not arrive today, thanks MB.
The best till last!
Placed an order for a S class (140) heater blower motor on Tuesday this week. Part did not arrive on Wednesday as agreed. The motor did arrive today but was £580+vat and not the £463+vat I was quoted. I immediately called my MB supplier only to be told 'MB GB have had a price increase in the last couple of weeks, the reason the blower motor had not come in on Wednesday was because the part number had been superceeded and is now more expensive'!!
I explained that I had quoted my customer off the back of their origional price and it was not acceptable.
Apparently MB GB can increase the price with no prior notice and there is nothing you can do about it. Bear in mind that MB GB will not accept returns...... If you order it you wear it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just imagine going to the local Indian, order from the menu and tuck in. Get you bill afterwards and find the prices have nothing in common with the menu you ordered from.... Trade descriptions?
This has to be the poorest customer service I have ever come across.
I spend in excess of £125K with BMW and experience no problems by comparison.
MB GB has lost the plot and it is a very sad occurance indeed. These cars were at the forefront ten years ago, an awful long way from their current postion IMHO.
Almost impossible to retain customers when difficulties like this arise daily?
Regards
Peter
Please excuse the thread hi-jack.
Well,
Jesus,
Go on,
Annoy us,
Tell us the percentage discount then ?
:(
Marcus
20% on normal parts (ordered a Monday for delivery the following Friday or 13% on urgent parts (ordered any day for delivery the next working day)
The best till last!
Placed an order for a S class (140) heater blower motor on Tuesday this week. Part did not arrive on Wednesday as agreed. The motor did arrive today but was £580+vat and not the £463+vat I was quoted. I immediately called my MB supplier only to be told 'MB GB have had a price increase in the last couple of weeks, the reason the blower motor had not come in on Wednesday was because the part number had been superceeded and is now more expensive'!!
I have also noticed an enormous increase in prices over here... some 20% perhaps over last year! :shock: :shock: :shock:
In my experience just lately, some parts have jumped up in excess of 35%!!
MB are totally in-flexible and do nothing to accomodate their customers, all this and price increases to boot.
If the G Wagen was not soooooo good I wouldn't give garage space to a three pointed badged vehicle...... Really, really sad.
I think it will be very difficult for MB to recover from the damage they have done to their reputation?
Regards
Peter
just to bring this to the top, on my search for why the carpet is wet between the drivers seat & the plastic tread plate I have discovered the water is coming in from near the rear top of the drivers door & running down the door seal and collecting at the sill.
Not sure wether i should adjust the door striler plate so the door is pulled tighter against the door seal or wether I should fit a new door seal ?
On the US forums someone mentioned that on occasion the door seals become loose and allow water to run along them and ingress. It is simply correctable by pushing the door seals back into place by pushing either upwards assuming its the top or sideways as appropriate.
guess mine must be worn i can see daylight!
There are a few more points to check for the damp floors ...
The engine firewall, where the inner wings are bolted usually rusts through allowing water to reach the floors. This is a characteristic of old G's. The same goes for the horizontal joint below the windscreen and the metal part beneath it.
Also if you have A/C, the rubber drain pipes deteriorate with age and crack allowing water to pass through to the floors via the transmission tunnel.
cheers for reply,i am drying the mats in my commercial boiler room!!
i am ordering a full set of door window seals now and also want to change all door seals for a piece of mind.is that wise?