Bonnet Mouted Spare

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I do a lot of towing. I often take the spare off the door and either throw it in the back or bung it on the roof rack.
Any one put it on the bonnet?
If so have you used the mount off the back or what?
Does it restrict the view forward much?
Would this be classed as a "mod" by the insurance?

cheers Grendle

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Grendle,
I have pondered this one myself as hooking a trailer on with the rear mounted spare is murder on the back.
( a ) I "think" the bonnet is plenty strong enough?
( b ) If the wheel was kept up near the screen it would not obstruct the view
But ( c ) One could not open the bonnet
( d ) but wheel further forward / too far forward, blocks the view and is a lot heavier to lift bonnet , and wheel could bust windscreen if allowed to fall back , check strap required ? and bonnet might need a second or stronger prop.
And finally I suspect that you would be better with the rubber resting on the bonnet to spread the load more evenly.
Central pin and padlock for theft security, and locating "ring" to centre
Suitabley proportioned tiedown rachett strap to secure physically?
But to go back to the beginning the army landrovers had this arrangment, but always plenty of help to lift the bonnet.
I analysye stuff to death.
Cheers Marcus

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Yes lots of thought put into that cheers. My mate has an ex RM L***R**** Defender with the Tyre on the bonnet I think I'll have a good look/fiddle with that. I'll let you know about the weight siting etc.
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marcus wrote:
Grendle,
I have pondered this one myself as hooking a trailer on with the rear mounted spare is murder on the back.
( a ) I "think" the bonnet is plenty strong enough?
( b ) If the wheel was kept up near the screen it would not obstruct the view
But ( c ) One could not open the bonnet
( d ) but wheel further forward / too far forward, blocks the view and is a lot heavier to lift bonnet , and wheel could bust windscreen if allowed to fall back , check strap required ? and bonnet might need a second or stronger prop.
And finally I suspect that you would be better with the rubber resting on the bonnet to spread the load more evenly.
Central pin and padlock for theft security, and locating "ring" to centre
Suitabley proportioned tiedown rachett strap to secure physically?
But to go back to the beginning the army landrovers had this arrangment, but always plenty of help to lift the bonnet.
I analysye stuff to death.
Cheers Marcus

:D Very good thinking Marcus

You have to much spare time on your hands :oops:

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Paul you can have my old rusty bonnet to have a play with and see if its a worth the effort first.

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bonnet mount

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I think you will find that there are now laws about putting spare wheels on the bonnet. Hence Land Rover no longer offer that fitment as an option. You may have noticed that the military's HS Land Rover 110 - sometimes erroneously refered to as Wolf - has the spare wheel hung somewhat precariously on the side of the truck. Boy, can that do some damage when the driver gets it wrong!

I am pretty sure that as a consequence of the change in the law, there would be insurance ramifications too. I should look into this fairly carefully before you commit to "cutting metal", as it would be a shame to put all that effort into the task, only to have it scuppered at the final hurdle. :roll:

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Thanks for the offer Mike. The Dog says thanks for the rear carpet he now has a sorfter landing when I go over bumps! That G will be brill when you finish it Are you going to the Quarry on Sunday with Mudflickers? I'm on if/when they get back to me.
Quercus I wounder if that Law covers older 4x4's they're not often back dated, but I'll try and find out before I try it.
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Not the lady in the leather skirt! Though she must be hot! But the spare on the lid.

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Looks like she needs a shower to me

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( a ) PVC skirt :oops:
( b ) too too thin
( c ) did I see a tie down strap in there somewhere
( d ) I fought the law, and the law won ( hypothetically only )
Now what was that about too much time on my hands? Chris?
Cheers
Snore

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Not pvc - leather :wink:

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Paul i might try to get a mate out with his G on sunday.

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marcus wrote:
Grendle,
I have pondered this one myself as hooking a trailer on with the rear mounted spare is murder on the back.

You do have the spare in the higher position?

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Err.........explain please. Can the mounting be moved up?.....Just been out side in the rain I can't see a different way of mounting, the top bolt hole on the door is in use. But I did notice I have a flat!***************** What's the trick with the mounting?

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Might as well move it while I'm changing b****dy wheels!!!

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On some 460s and 463s you can rotate the carrier to raise the position. If the mounts look symetrical then you probably have the earlier type.

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Yes mine does not look as if I can rotate it. My car is an 83 so farly early. The bonnet mount you posted is the fitted on your G?

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no,not mine,just came accross it somewhere and kept the picture. Here's another

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And even if I mounted it any higher,
I am NOT a Dwarf,
I would still be crawling about below it

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That roof one looks very over engineered! The interior one looks good, had me thinking about rigging a dexion frame, but then I realised thats in a LWB and a SWB does not have the room. I think I'm going to have to use my roof rack, the tyre was up there all summer and no one nicked it! I will still have a look at the LR bonett fix though.

cheers
Grendle

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The roofrack mount in the pic pulls out and hangs down the side of the car and is probably counterbalanced.
Re:- security - padlock and chain or get a spare carrier off a scrapper and bolt it to the rack.
food for thought
Chris

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Yes thought the roof mounted one worked like that. Spoke to the chap with the LR, he hate the mount for all the points Marcus raised! I'll beef up my roof rack and secure the wheel.....I wounder if Jeepmadmikes using his old mount as hes no longer got a backdoor??? Oh well kept everybody amused for a few days.

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Grendle

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Paul im not sure what im going to do with my spare wheel mount yet, i've been considering mounting it in the tub but i've not made up my mind yet and bigger tyres keep tempting me