wiper spindles AGAIN

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Another wiper spindle question :roll: I'm sure you're all bored of answering wiper spindle questions by now :lol:

I have a brand new wiper spindle & rods assembly sat in front of me here :)

If I remove the existing wiper spindles & remove fixing to the wiper motor mount , can the old spindles & rods be removed as a single unit via the glove box area?

Also, is it possible to feed this new assembly up and into position again from the glovebox area?

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Yes

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Hi as Chris says Yes ..with a very large amount of dexterity and an awareness that if you do not keep the assembly close to the windscreen frame at ALL times you can foul the wiring behind the dash and not be able to get to where you want to be ...or get back out....if you intend to keep the G' for a long time it is a good idea to dismantle the spindle assemblies and apply a heavy waterproof grease ...look out for the two "o" rings (one at each end) which are designed to stop the water running down the shaft...but dont..... and once installed fill the black plastic cap that fits over the shaft and the large nut with Petroleum Jelly...also put something like tigerseal between the washer behind the nut and the hole in the metal windscreen surround especially if the hole edges are rusty.as my dad said "Son! there's ninety ways to do it wrong and one way to do it right"

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thanks for the replies :)

Do the threaded 'outer' sections of the spindles just push out of the bodywork or are the screwed into the body?

On a seperate note, I've removed the plastic vent trim along the top edge of the dash that runs along the side of the window seal. Looks like the water leaks are not really a result of wiper spindles ( even though the passenger one does need replacing) but are from the window rubber. Wet rust patches in each corner and along the bottom edge too :roll: Whoever replaced the windscreen all those years ago did a pretty crappy job.

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Hi the metal windscreen surround rusts under the rubber seal..once this happens the seal in not a seal anymore.....the only remedy (long term) is to remove the windscreen and the seal..clean the rusty areas and build them up with paint and rub them back to a totally flat surface for the seal to sit on...any humps or hollows and the seal will not seat properly..with the surface prepared refit the windscreen If the seal lips are hard and will not soften with petroleum jelly fit a new seal..if the job is done right you do not require windscreen sealant.if in doubt run a light continuous track of PROPER windscreen sealant under the outside outer edge of the seal and press the rubber against the sealant...any break in the continuous track of sealant will let the water run under the seal and come over the inner lip inside behind the dash..** windscreen sealant remains flexible and will ooze into spaces as the body flexes or the screen is buffeted by an oncoming truck slipstream.....the spindle bodies just push through the hole in the metal windscreen frame....

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new window rubber is on back order ... looks like it could be a couple of weeks.

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Let us know if that solves your problem...

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hi there, what came of the spindle job?

was it a succesful operation?

my G300 has a loose spindle too!!! its the passenger side,but it seems that you have to change the whole lot?? they look connected and not two seperate pieces...

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:oops:

My new spindle assembly is still sat wrapped up in its box in the garage :roll:

One day I'll get around to swapping them. At the moment I jsut run around with no carpets in the front.

Looking at the assembly there is no reason why you couldn't just replace the passenger side .. in fact this is what I was thinking of doing on mine as it is the passenger one that is leaking & is the easiest one to do too. ( the rest of the water is leaking in from the window seal, which is another job I have still not done :roll: )

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Hi Huss you can buy the passenger side spindle as a separate item ..p/n MA000 820.42.46 described as a "bearing" @ GBP 16.10 the rod connecting it to the rest of the system is a "push on" fitment but if rusty may be difficult to get off in the confined space... grease the ball and clean up the rust before re-installing...before you fit the new spindle disassemble it and pack it with heavy grease..and on installation apply tigerseal around the mounting hole underneath the large nut so that it squeezes out all around the washer.and fill the black cover that fits on the spindle behind the wiper blade with vaseline (petroleum jelly)......should last at least 5 years before you have to relube it......

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thanks a million for the replies!!

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I replaced the LHS separately. It requires removing the glove box and fiddly work but is relatively straight forward

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i feel better now :P

i will give the part number in my local mercs in the week.

just hope it stays dry when i am driving, thats when the spindle moves out of position and lets the rain in :? i did fit new spindle caps on and packed them with marine grade grease which is ok if the vehicle is stationary in the rain,but my wife always finds an excuse to go shopping :lol:

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just a little tip, was recently in a indespension show room (they sell trailer stuff, lighting boards trailer wheels etc.) and i noticed on the back of the socket which plugs into your cars lighting board a grommet. i was racking my brain as to how i could use these, then it came to me, push these over your wiper spindles as the protrude and then attach your wiper arms and blades. i filled them with grease and popped them on. they completly cover the attachment nut and are compressed by the wiper arm nut. very neat, almost made for the job. bit fidly when greasy but no leaks what so ever. all you need is the tow board lighting socket with grommet, i asked the shop assistant if i could have 3 of the grommets as there were about a dozen loose in the bottom of the box (one for the rear) he said help your self, no charge. ticityboo so i did. give it a go it works. best regards Lynxman.

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lynxman, i want a set please!!

i took out the front passenger footwell carpet and it was dripping!!

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i was on the phone this morning as usual with shakir :) and talking about my lack of luck with water ingress on my G's!!!

he said,impossible!

check the nuts are tight on the spindles...

he was right :!: :oops: :oops:

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hus55 wrote:
i was on the phone this morning as usual with shakir :) and talking about my lack of luck with water ingress on my G's!!!

he said,impossible!

check the nuts are tight on the spindles...

he was right :!: :oops: :oops:

Huss, it's always been good advice to check one's nuts :lol:

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i check my nuts every night Isa, and i mean i check them religously :P

but the G nuts, i must admit i overlooked :oops:

:lol:

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hus55 wrote:
i check my nuts every night Isa, and i mean i check them religously :P

I don't doubt it in the slightest, old fruity, I mean, if you invest 8 hours of your skills in polishing your G, what on earth wouldn't you do for your nuts? :lol:

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well i guess i overdone my nuts :oops:

it was a wet morning and thankfully the front passenger footwell is dry :P

but,, as i switched on the wipers to clear the rain from the windscreen they didnt move :shock: i assumed that the nut was overtightened and i was right!

so i loosened the nut a turn and tried the wipers again and all is resolved i hope :? only thing i am worried about now is if the nut loosens by itself over a period of time......

whats the correct procedure here fixwin, Isa, anyone...... :wink:

rgds hus

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Hi Huss make sure that the spindle shaft is not siezed in the housing... or when you tightened the nut the whole assembly had turned as well which would change the geometry of the connecting rod resulting in the system locking up..

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how do i take precautions fixwin?

does over tightening cause the spindle to sieze up...

how do i tighten up the nut without chnaging the geometry?

it all seems to work fine for now but i hope the nut does not loosen over time...

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Hi Huss overtightening will only crush the seal under the washer beneath the nut....it cannot restrict the spindle in any way....if as you tighten the nut the whole assembly rotates then the arm on the end of spindle moves and stops the rod that is attached to the wiper motor moving..hence no wipers...remove the wiper arm and blade and as you tighten the nut hold the threaded part with molegrips to stop it turning.I suspect that the seal under the washer beneath the nut is may be leaking so this must be resealed to stop the water getting in. when you lift the wiper blade off the windscreen and lift it up and down does the spindle slop about ? look closely at the spindle and threaded part with the wiper switched on and see if anything is loose ......

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hi fixwin, all seems ok now. there is no slack or sloppiness in the spindle unlike before when i checked it a few months back it was a bit loose but when i checked it last week it was really loose!!

just had a strong downpour and as my front footwell carpet is out to dry i noticed that all was fine....no wetness or puddles!

bloody G's.......i love 'em!!