Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5 sec

16 replies [Last post]
ferdi
ferdi's picture
Offline
Joined: 06.04.2008
Location: London

Just recently when I start from cold there is a loud knocking noise from the engine bay which then dissapears after about 5 seconds...often too the Diesel engine warmer light re-apppears...even though it dissapears after warming it properly.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,

Ferdi

peter perfect
peter perfect's picture
Offline
Joined: 08.11.2003
Location: Bahrain
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

sounds like a faulty glow plug ,the knocking noise would be un burnt fuel at a guess , could be a dodgy injector on cold start dumping too much fuel in, if the glow plug no wormy proper then un burnt maybe

Roly
Roly's picture
Offline
Joined: 07.11.2003
Location: Australia
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

Yes I'd second Ian's thoughts. Replace the glow plugs

fixwin38
fixwin38's picture
Offline
Joined: 09.07.2006
Location: northern ireland
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

the engine heater light is telling you that you have faulty heater plugs....there should be some smoke as well which clears when your engine is running properly on all the cylinders..continued use in this condition will allow unburnt diesel to wash the walls of the cylinders that have failed heater plugs..and dilute the engine oil.... the results of which could get very expensive to rectify!!

Anonymous
Anonymous's picture
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

I presume glow plugs are swines to get at?
Coat them in WD40/ GT85 etc as mucg as poss to aid removal.
Beta Tools offer some fancy socket that has a UJ in it for removal but they are about £45.

fixwin38
fixwin38's picture
Offline
Joined: 09.07.2006
Location: northern ireland
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

HI Heater plug threads tend to carbon up inside the head and are easiest removed when the engine is hot.... socket and ratchet bar is the best approach unless you have the special MB tool.and inline leverage.they can pick up the thread in the head if you use to much muscle...feel one tighten.. screw it back in a bit and use quarter turns backwards and forwards until it comes freely.....

ferdi
ferdi's picture
Offline
Joined: 06.04.2008
Location: London
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

Thanks Guys...does anyone know the part numbers I need to order? and a cheap source?

Roly
Roly's picture
Offline
Joined: 07.11.2003
Location: Australia
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

They were not much from MB £6 or thereabouts for Bosch/ beru. But any parts supplier should be able to get them. A suitable mechanic is probably more important to find. I can't help in London

ferdi
ferdi's picture
Offline
Joined: 06.04.2008
Location: London
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

Great thanks..I am going to try this myself...there is some mention above of a tool that i need..is it essential?

fixwin38
fixwin38's picture
Offline
Joined: 09.07.2006
Location: northern ireland
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

MB offer a special tool but a comprehensive socket set is all you need...... along with a gentle touch.......lots of heater plugs advertised on E'bay but **Bosch/beru is the MB recommended brand type 0100 221 162 / 0250 201 026
** quoted from the MB service publication

ferdi
ferdi's picture
Offline
Joined: 06.04.2008
Location: London
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

wow...MB just quoted £17.50 each and said I needed 6.

I think I will try to find another source...

Cheers for all the help.

Mike

ferdi
ferdi's picture
Offline
Joined: 06.04.2008
Location: London
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

Hi fixwin,

Before I order some...are you sure the number you quoted is fine for my g300 td 2001?

cheers.

M

fixwin38
fixwin38's picture
Offline
Joined: 09.07.2006
Location: northern ireland
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

try GSF car parts ...branches in chadwell heath. greenford. heathrow kingston. NW10. brixton. hornsey. www.gsfcarparts.com......

fixwin38
fixwin38's picture
Offline
Joined: 09.07.2006
Location: northern ireland
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

good numbers for the 300 series engines if you go to GSF just quote the number they do not have any awareness of G'wagens

ferdi
ferdi's picture
Offline
Joined: 06.04.2008
Location: London
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

Cheers...also just had a look in the manual to see where the little guys were...but no reference...can you give any idea on where to look under the bonnet?!

fixwin38
fixwin38's picture
Offline
Joined: 09.07.2006
Location: northern ireland
GWOA Groups: Members
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

Hi you must remove the airfilter box to access the heater plugs which are fitted into the cylinder head in a line from front to back underneath the induction manifold and linked with electric cables...remove the nut that holds the cable to the plug and with a 12mm socket and ratchet bar remove the glowplug by turning anti clockwise.best to do one at a time to avoid any confusion....watch for cross-threading when fitting the new glowplug.a light film of oil on the threads helps you feel if you have not aligned the plug properly...damage to the threads can result in having to remove the cylinder head for thread repair....

Anonymous
Anonymous's picture
Re: Wierd Knocking sound from Engine on start up for about 5

I don't want to sound patronizing but probably not the easiast job to undertake unless you have relative experience and quality tools. There must be some genuine Merc experts in London? Surely!