Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

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Hello GWOA,

I'm new on this forum but a regular on others. I'm looking for a Wagen with the OM617 engine (yes, I know they're slow). My only requirements are:

1) Well maintained

2) RHD

3) Factory AC

I've learnt that the older G's were far more agricultural in nature and harder to find with AC. I was hoping to get a reality check from you and some leads, if any. 

Many thanks!

 

 

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

  hi and welcome

                              the factory AC will be like looking for hens teeth in the UK

                              maybe USA / africa models (some where HOT)

                              for upgrade try these

                                                    http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/universal-air-conditioning-unit

                                     adrian

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

Pound ought to be very strong in South Africa at the moment !

good luck

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   these are the parts for OEM 617 air con

   was going to buy for myself but would not fit as i have turbo intercooler 

     was in USA but now soldcrying

   vIMG_7123.JPG

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

Much appreciated! Are there any on these forums with the OM617 + Factory AC? I was planning on offering a finders fee but If not,  I'm probably never going to find one.

I own a W123 300D with factory AC & self leveling suspension. I was told those were rare in the UK as well. I guess I got lucky one and hoping for another streak.

 

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There were very few W463 that came with factory air-con in the UK and this is the the 'luxury' model that came after the W460, which you are looking for. Perhaps if you find a late 1998 -1989 model you may have more chance, but I don't think that the W460 was designed with the possibility of aircon in mind (the W460 dash has no knob space for the A/C). I have seen essentially aftermarket kits from Diavia and others. If you retrofit, you will also require some vacuum valves to raise engine idle-speed when the a/c is on. I think you may have more luck in finding a 300GD in a W463 guise with the OM603 engine, which has most of the ruggedness and simplicity of the 617, but with a little more refinement (6-cyl) and power.

 

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

  the factory fitted AC a W460 300GD was  behr  

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I had an after market a/c kit in a ge280, Davida or something like that

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

I'm hoping to find one with the factory Behr unit. Any leads appreciated. Wish me luck! 

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C615856

If only this was a RHD diesel!!!

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Yes, but I don't think that is a factory AC. I guess you are looking for AC for use in some hot, RHD, country?

 

Otherwise, I would concentrate first on body condition, then an OM617 and, personally, an automatic, as I think that diesel-auto combination works really well, having had one. If you find all  that, you'll be really lucky. Whether it has AC would or not, would not be a spoiler for me. But I'm in the UK, where AC is somewhat irrelevant.

You could go for this type of AC;laugh

 

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

I live in the UK as well. And while the Air Con is irrelevant here, I relocate for work, often spending a couple years in countries, so an aircon is a must for the topics

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

It's been a couple years and the search continues. I came very close to snapping up a W461 (white) that was advertised for sale on here but lost out to a higher bid. 

If you can help point me to a rust free diesel W460/1 with factory aircon for sale, I'd be very grateful. Thanks in advance!

 

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

Good luck. Seems like a sensible combination of economy(!) and performance.

 

I get confused with diesels and engine numbers... what variants of GD300s are there?  I have a E350 which is a lovely V6 diesel, and before that an E320 which was bullet proof, also V6.  So what is in the GD300?  Straight 6 I guess.  And what performance/economy do they really get.  In case I go this route.

My 2 G's have been 230GEs.  Once a 5 speed manual which drove beautifully like a car on spongy suspension.  The current one a 4 speed auto which replaces that spark with comfort instead.

I want a V6 or V8 sometime.

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I think a front sun visor is an excellent way of cutting down glare and heat transmission, after all the frony window is the only one that is non vertical. Only one I can find is for a Landy but should be adaptable.

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Sorry, I don't know all the engine categories but, is this any good?

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1061222 (nothing to do with me)

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

markhowes wrote:

Sorry, I don't know all the engine categories but, is this any good?

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1061222 (nothing to do with me)

^ That's a petrol motor (easy tell is the spark plug wires). Thanks anyway. Still on the lookout.

 

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jdring wrote:

....I  get confused with diesels and engine numbers... what variants of GD300s are there?  ...

I want a V6 or V8 sometime.

For the UK, there were originally only two 300GD types:

in W460 guise, there was the normally aspirated, OM617, 5-cylinder engine,

in W463 guise, there was the normally aspirated, OM603, 6-cylinder engine.

In mainland Eurrope, there were turbo versions of both.

For the W460, there was also a 4-cylinder, OM616, version, the 240GD; and an OM602, 5-cyl, 250GD for the W463 which then became a 2.9L in the W461, with and without turbo.

After year 2,000, other CDI versions appeared:such as the G270, with OM612; and then the V6,  G300, with OM642; and more recently, the Bluetecc version as a G350, but with the same 3.0L, V6, OM642.

V8 = OM628

 

 

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

Brilliant thanks.

I like 6 cylinder Diesels and think they have plenty of power for a big G, but needs to be the Turbo.  They sound fine too.

Slightly off engines - saw this nice review of the G evolution.

https://youtu.be/FZa9Vc7xBps 

 

 

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Re: Will I find a RHD GD300 (OM617 motor) with AC?

I have a 617a engine with an AC pump

I also have a A C dash unit available

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