5 speed gearbox problems

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foneman
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:? on one of my new g projects that at
i have a 5 sp box that i left with a mechanic mate of mine
i was told by the previous owner that i was noisey and kept sticking going in and out of gears
my mate has rang me just now asking some advice when dismantling the box
is there anyone on here that he can ring ref this
the part number on the box is 460 2602001 and there is another number with german writing on it that seems to read 180 006071

if anyone can be rang ref this please send me a pm or email me on foneman@gmail.com
thanks in advance

chris :wink:

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Re: 5 speed gearbox problems

:? IS THERE ANY HELP OUT THERE ????????? please
what i need is a phone number that my mechanic can ring whilst he is at the box

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Re: 5 speed gearbox problems

:cry: HELP????????????????? :cry:

allan@gibsonsautos
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foneman , What engine is your 5 speed mated to and is it the standard Getrag unit. What is wrong with your box , does it rattle when warm , ie ..as just about every getrag mated onto the 617 diesel ? . Cant help with stripping of box but I know a man than can do the job for you , he willl be checking out my "military " ( OK van ) gearbox soon. Cheers Allan

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allan@gibsonsautos.co.uk wrote:
foneman , What engine is your 5 speed mated to and is it the standard Getrag unit. What is wrong with your box , does it rattle when warm , ie ..as just about every getrag mated onto the 617 diesel ? . Cant help with stripping of box but I know a man than can do the job for you , he willl be checking out my "military " ( OK van ) gearbox soon. Cheers Allan

thanks @allan@gibsonsautos.co.uk
its in a 1983 irish 300gds with no difflocks ???????? with the getrag unit
its seems until 1986 the forst g,s imported to southern ireland had no difflocks !!!
i gave it to a mate of mine the other day and hes in the process of stripping it
i bought 2 300gds one for repainting and general tidy and the other for a project likes your big blue
in the back of the project (blue one)was a 5 speed box and i asked why it was taken out and was told it was sticking going in and out of gears and very noisey
are parts hard to come buy for this type of box (new of course)

allan@gibsonsautos
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Re: 5 speed gearbox problems

if its the getrag box onto the diesel it will probably make rattling noises soon after a rebuild , they are notorious for it , when I changed Big Blues engine to diesel from the straight six I went from a perfectly quite getrag to a rattly at idle one within 1/2 day, some will run for ages like this , better to get the old Merc four speed unit. the sticking going in and out of gears is probaly down to the linkage , had similar problem with mine sticking in 3rd when offroad , rectified when I took a little time to set up linkage up properly . Cheers Allan .

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Re: 5 speed gearbox problems

An interesting article has just come up on the USA forum about modifying the bearings in the getrag box, it is some-thing I advocated over a year ago when I built the box for the tdi 300 GD.

Ah well better late than never.

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Where abouts is this USA forum?

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http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=30
you might have to sign in though which will take you through the main site

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Interesting about the Gertrag 5-speed's rattle:
One of my G's(300GDS with this gearbox) had same rattle at idle and needed a new clutch as well.
So got new Sachs kit and fitted. Totally unexpected RATTLE GONE!
Old release bearing was past it's best, so think that was the culprit.
BTW, Sachs kit was £113 incl vat over the counter at local motor factor, so shop around.
Agree with Allan, sticking gears most likely binding linkage, often on other/older Mercs caused by worn bushes.