0-60 times
Just been doing some acceleration tests with my friends Racelogic Data Recorder
W460 LWB OM606 quite chuffed with the results!!
Gordon,
Pop a supercharged petrol engine in it ! Then it'll move.
Very impressive, is that a satellite 60 as my speedo good 10% under',do you use 1st to start, can't tell from video?
12sec. Is pretty impressive and once you've mod'ed the pump it will make a G500 look pretty silly!
And it's just a little faster than my old 603
https://clubgwagen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4791&p=34744#p34744
@29.5 sec
Very impressive, is that a satellite 60 as my speedo good 10% under',do you use 1st to start, can't tell from video?
That run was in first which is a bit low, did another in second which is a bit high that was 12.2 I'm on 4.1to 1 diffs on the 4.8s that were in originally, starting in second was about 11 seconds
Off to buy me a stopwatch!
I remember haivng my 230ge..I tried this 0-60 I got to 60 just as i passed my neighbour with his dog..trouble is when I started at zero..the neighbours dog was a puppy !
Hi Neil, I've been watching Bens project with interest, looking forward to seeing it up and running.
Gordon
It looks good dun it !
I must be upfront and say i am a petrol fan (and a blower) but the work some of you guys are doing on these wiesel's is amazing !
For me i prefer continual fluid power delivery through out the rev range and a long wait before the slap then a loss before winding up revs and the next slap don't appeal to me. But having said that the magic and ingenuity behind how you do it is incredible.
Neil have you driven a turbo 606 G?
Hello Gordon,
No I haven't buddy. (sadly you're to far away for me to pop round and hyjack yours for a bit)
Just been doing some acceleration tests with my friends Racelogic Data Recorder
W460 LWB OM606 quite chuffed with the results!!
Looks good Gordon. I saw on one of your threads IP on a test rig and know you were tweaking. Is this the 603 pump with 6mm elements ?
Id love to get over to your garage 'open day'. Workshop must be busy these days.
loving those times!!
Neil .. there is very little lag on these babys, specially around the 200hp zone
Alex,
Looks like i'm gonna need to have myself a little go in one !
Hello Gordon,
No I haven't buddy. (sadly you're to far away for me to pop round and hyjack yours for a bit)
Come to the AGM I'll be there.
Cor that M40 will be a test for my poor GBola stricken little truck ! ha ha if she makes it there i'll be there !
Fuel that dirty wiesel up Gordon i'm gonna knock the chobblers off it ! (hmmmmm, need i bring my helmet ?)
LOL Weisel...... liking it! I have driven it (if its the same one that was at the last AGM?) and Drive Axel's and the late tony Brugger's. All of them are 'mental' - good pick up and rather comfortable in the gears. Though 'nowt on t' 500 lad!
Spider1V
LOL Weisel...... liking it! I have driven it (if its the same one that was at the last AGM?) and Drive Axel's and the late tony Brugger's. All of them are 'mental' - good pick up and rather comfortable in the gears. Though 'nowt on t' 500 lad!
Spider1V
Sounds rather like a challenge dear boy, what ho!!
G
Spider ill challenge you when my G's done ;)
Spider ill challenge you when my G's done ;)
It'll probably give a G55 compressor a run for its money to 90 then you'll run out of gears.
aha we will see, looks a drag race needs to be organised at one of the up coming meets.
With the 5th gear overdrive, this will help the lack of gears ?
Seen and heard this setup .. and from 100 onwards the power keeps coming, wont be long till its done and ill video all the stats!!
Neil,
Don't go over to the dark side just yet.
IanA2 is shortly having a Turbo Technics Twin Turbo fitted to his G300 so watch this space for details of potentially stonking impact on acceleration figures.
Easy Spider, the guy who bought my 606 turbo, runs rings around his own 500 with it. Not THAT fast, but smokes the 285/75 16's on the black stuff. Never timed it, but for sure under 10. Any permanent 4 wheel drive smoking on the tar with big wheels has got what it takes. Can your 500 do that? My new 500 can't.
Just sorted out the installation for end August. Will let folks know how it progresses.
Of course ! I will need to check yours to !!! Ian. (helmet at the ready)
Just to add fuel to the fire in support of Spider..........I have a copy of MB's UK Recommended Price List for the G dated June 1998 which includes a brief technical data section; it says that the 0 - 62.5 mph (0 - 100 kmh) times for the G500 short and long wheelbase are 7.5 and 8.1 seconds respectively...... 
Gentleman, gentlemen, gentleman (and any ladies looking in),
The case is simple... it's not about quantity, it about quality!
The afore mentioned 'Wiesels' (am liking that sooo much) all deliver the quantity and there is no denying that fact, though its how the 500 delivers that power - with quality, with fineness and precision, that just keeps pulling up to and over 128MPH on the clock. No 'running out' of gears and above all the exhilarating feel as you get to the triple digits* and it keeps on pulling - and at this point, in a G, you are now starting to rub your nose at nature itself!
You begin to defy physics as one's 5 liter, V8 begins pushing against the very element that is called air! The suspension handles the speeds in a controlled manner and as any 500 owner will tell you, you will pay for it at the pump, however it's the smile and sense of being at 'one' with the elements you have just battled, the noise's you have just experienced with a roar (and less of an 'agricultural' clatter) and all cosseted in the finest wood, leather, carpet, air conditioning, DVD, electric windows and of course the lovely Blue lit sills.... all delivered with MB quality.... is why the 500 is seen as the pinnacle of the G's, the correct balance of power and control. Both on and off road.
It may not be the fastest, but as an 'out of the box' vehicle the 500 is very hard to beat!
So there! 
Spider1V
*Spider1V does not condone driving very fast.
.......you are now starting to rub your nose at nature itself!
Very profound oh enlightened one and keeper of the way of the G, but what does it mean ?
Gentleman, gentlemen, gentleman (and any ladies looking in),
The case is simple... it's not about quantity, it about quality!
The afore mentioned 'Wiesels' (am liking that sooo much) all deliver the quantity and there is no denying that fact, though its how the 500 delivers that power - with quality, with fineness and precision, that just keeps pulling up to and over 128MPH on the clock. No 'running out' of gears and above all the exhilarating feel as you get to the triple digits* and it keeps on pulling - and at this point, in a G, you are now starting to rub your nose at nature itself!
You begin to defy physics as one's 5 liter, V8 begins pushing against the very element that is called air! The suspension handles the speeds in a controlled manner and as any 500 owner will tell you, you will pay for it at the pump, however it's the smile and sense of being at 'one' with the elements you have just battled, the noise's you have just experienced with a roar (and less of an 'agricultural' clatter) and all cosseted in the finest wood, leather, carpet, air conditioning, DVD, electric windows and of course the lovely Blue lit sills.... all delivered with MB quality.... is why the 500 is seen as the pinnacle of the G's, the correct balance of power and control. Both on and off road.
It may not be the fastest, but as an 'out of the box' vehicle the 500 is very hard to beat!
So there!
Spider1V
*Spider1V does not condone driving very fast.
Nicely worded buddy.
.......you are now starting to rub your nose at nature itself!
Very profound oh enlightened one and keeper of the way of the G, but what does it mean ?
Ahhh young padwan /grass hopper the Way of the G or rubbing one's nose?
In driving the mighty G, one has already taken a step against the elements. By owning one of these rare beasts you have more than one life (and do not need to advertise it), and you have chosen to walk the path of the truly enlightened! for it has been foretold that the way of the Landrover is now coming to an end, manly because it got stuck due to the lack of differentials. For the differentials are the key to working in harmony with nature.
As an example - LR Driver - I have a Landrover and I will conquer the world and nature itself. A Gwagen driver knows what nature will throw at them and by having the sacred diffs will work in harmony with what ever nature will throw at them.
That fact that its done with a V8, 5 ltr engine means it just more enlightening, powerful and comfortable.
I hope that this has quenched you thirst for knowledge my young Padwan/ Grass hopper?
Spider1V
Gentleman, gentlemen, gentleman (and any ladies looking in),
The case is simple... it's not about quantity, it about quality!
The afore mentioned 'Wiesels' (am liking that sooo much) all deliver the quantity and there is no denying that fact, though its how the 500 delivers that power - with quality, with fineness and precision, that just keeps pulling up to and over 128MPH on the clock. No 'running out' of gears and above all the exhilarating feel as you get to the triple digits* and it keeps on pulling - and at this point, in a G, you are now starting to rub your nose at nature itself!
You begin to defy physics as one's 5 liter, V8 begins pushing against the very element that is called air! The suspension handles the speeds in a controlled manner and as any 500 owner will tell you, you will pay for it at the pump, however it's the smile and sense of being at 'one' with the elements you have just battled, the noise's you have just experienced with a roar (and less of an 'agricultural' clatter) and all cosseted in the finest wood, leather, carpet, air conditioning, DVD, electric windows and of course the lovely Blue lit sills.... all delivered with MB quality.... is why the 500 is seen as the pinnacle of the G's, the correct balance of power and control. Both on and off road.
It may not be the fastest, but as an 'out of the box' vehicle the 500 is very hard to beat!
So there!
Spider1V
*Spider1V does not condone driving very fast.
WISE WORDS ARSEGROPER !!!
.......you are now starting to rub your nose at nature itself!
Very profound oh enlightened one and keeper of the way of the G, but what does it mean ?
Ahhh young padwan /grass hopper the Way of the G or rubbing one's nose?
In driving the mighty G, one has already taken a step against the elements. By owning one of these rare beasts you have more than one life (and do not need to advertise it), and you have chosen to walk the path of the truly enlightened! for it has been foretold that the way of the Landrover is now coming to an end, manly because it got stuck due to the lack of differentials. For the differentials are the key to working in harmony with nature.
As an example - LR Driver - I have a Landrover and I will conquer the world and nature itself. A Gwagen driver knows what nature will throw at them and by having the sacred diffs will work in harmony with what ever nature will throw at them.
That fact that its done with a V8, 5 ltr engine means it just more enlightening, powerful and comfortable.
I hope that this has quenched you thirst for knowledge my young Padwan/ Grass hopper?
Spider1V
VEWY RISE HAGAIN ARSEGROPPER !!!
Looks like spider hijacks yet another diesel thread. Sad but true
Looks like spider hijacks yet another diesel thread. Sad but true
Not hi-jacking, just a 'balanced' counter juxtapose.
Spider1V
Factory figures for the 500 and 300TD
G500 Short Wheel base V8 0 - 62.5 7.5
G500 Long Wheel base V8 0 - 62.5 8.1
G300 DT Short Wheel base 0 - 62.5 14.2
G300 DT Long Wheel base 0 - 62.5 15.7
Looks like spider hijacks yet another diesel thread. Sad but true
Not hi-jacking, just a 'balanced' counter juxtapose.
Spider1V
stuck and record
Looks like spider hijacks yet another diesel thread. Sad but true
Not hi-jacking, just a 'balanced' counter juxtapose.
Spider1V
stuck and record
Yeah , maybe you could change the tune now and again!
Spider1V
There seem to be two sets of performance figures for the G500/ M113. The 2006 brochure (attached) showed figures around the 10sec mark but I have seen 8sec quoted as well (different gearing?). Attempting to release the hostage, the comparison between 460/ 606 and 463/ 113 is comparing apples with pears. 12sec in a 2ton rear wheel drive car without ESP is more than respectable.
Getting back on track....
When I first got the G and had the new HT leads and sparks in, with the (then) new exhaust, half a tank of petrol , no passengers, no aircon etc, a nice still , warm day. I could get around the 7.3-7.8 seconds from 0-60 from a standing start. Over time and miles, I have seen this drop to around the 8-8.5 seconds again from 0-60.
Having taken out (while in Germany a few years back ) a 'new' 500, I was very disappointed in the performance numbers as it was closer to a sub 10 seconds - even though it had the newer engine with more HP. Go figure.
So as not to upset the original poster of the thread - maybe some of the diesel guys would like to post their actual numbers?
Spider1V
why do these post always go into 'my g is better than yours' ?
regarding times.. feels like im back in the playground talking piece sizes, this post is about 460 conversions nothing todo with the v8s and how they perform, when my conversion is done (early august) ill put £100 on beating any 500 from 0-60, these conversions are getting better and better. and for the record; i have wood in my 460 too , and air con.
lets not bash other peoples Gs just cause they haven't got a v8 , how old are we again?
Don't take it too seriously Alex. It's just a bit of banter.
At least that's what I've always assumed it to be.
Because mine is....
See what I mean
Sorry all ; one should have known that the 'G banter ' forum is rarely used for banter and the 'G technical' is banters second home ya ya yaa
please excuse me I'm just going out to buy a G500 ;)
...please excuse me I'm just going out to buy a G500 ;)
Have you considered a diesel conversion 
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Have you considered a diesel conversion .
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dont be silly, they got nothing on a v8's
See - now you're getting the hang of it.
where else would we get this kinda entertainment for free !!!
Broom broom, keep on trucking !!! (or tractoring for you wiesels !!! )
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Yes it would, but this is my daily drive and I don't think a petrol + blower would do 26 mpg, HOWEVER, It may get a bigger turbo and a 7.5mm superpump
so watch this space!!